Neil Crisp  

Sep 282020
 

Name:  Neil John Crisp

Born:  17/1/63

Date Joined A few years prior to 1983 when I was about 17 or 18. Had previously been a member of Victoria Park Harriers and Havering AC with my younger brother.

Personal Bests:

Track

400 67.5 V50

800 2.34.8 V50

1500 4.59.0 V40 / 5.21.7 V50

3000 10.31.29 V40 / 10.50.7 V50

5000 17.50.2 V40 / 18.10.47 V50

Road

5k 18.05 V40 / 18.19 V50

5m 29.27 V40 / 29.35 V50

10k 36.04 V40 / 37.07 V50

10m 61.2 V40 / 62.43 V50

Half Marathon

1 hour 22 mins 38 sec V40 / 1 hour 23 mins 22 secs V50

20M

2 hours 13 mins 35 secs V40 / 2 hours 11 mins 15 secs V50

Marathon

2 hours 49 mins 41 secs SM / 3 hours 12 mins 12 secs V50

Most notable event: Meeting my Wife to be at the club!!

First Club Race: Possibly Ilford Town Centre 10k [A few years ago and the memory is not so good!]

Favourite Race: No particular race., though SEAA Cross Country at Parliament Hill Fields is fun!!. 9 miles of pure mud!!

Notable Performances:
Essex V50 Relay Gold at Harwich 2017.
Competing for London at a Schools Inter Counties Match for London. Got a tatty old London vest too boot!!

Biggest Disappointment:  ,London Marathon and the elusive 3 hours in 2016. Had a very good build up and it just went wrong on the day 

Typical Weeks Training at your peak . 

In my younger days preparing for the marathon:

 Sunday am 20 miles steady

Sunday pm 5 miles at pace

Monday Easy 5 miles

Tuesday am 12 miles run to work followed by a large breakfast

Tuesday pm 12 miles home [running with Dave Jones] or track session

Wednesday Rest

Thursday Steady 7-8 miles

Friday Rest

Saturday Race or 7-8 miles

On occasions did hit 100 miles a week

In more recent times:

Sunday am 18 miles steady

Monday Circuits

Tuesday track session 10 x 400m 90sec Recovery

Wednesday 8 miles tempo

Thursday 4 x 1.2miles Tomswood Hill

Friday Rest

Saturday 8 miles tempo pace

Favourite Sessions:  400m reps with the group

Favourite race distance : Like most distances. Did enjoy the Essex 20m in recent years

Favourite event –  Road

What advice would you give our current crop of youngsters Listen to your coach and body

Who is the most Famous Athlete you Trained with or would like to train with:  Would be great to see Mo Farah at the track just to see someone of that class up close!

How would you improve the sport Ban cheats for life and encourage more coaches into the sport

Favourite Athlete or Sportsman:  Geraint Thomas. An Olympic Gold medallist who was a long serving domestic before taking the yellow jersey!

What other sports do you follow: Cycling, rugby, cricket

Best Country Visited Malaysia because a “full packet of crisps” went and the visit to the Orang-utan centre was great

Favourite Food & Drink : Chicken Jalfreizi and a pint of real beer

Favourite TV Shows:  Just been watching Ozark on Netflix

Last Film Seen : More of a theatre goer. Recently seen The Play that Goes Wrong, Tina Turner, The Carole King Musical

Last Book Read Not a great reader. Supreme Courage by General Sir Peter de la Billier                               

Favourite Band Singer:  Like ABBA and most middle of the road music

Last Album Bought or Downloaded Can’t remember

Last Concert Attended:  Will Young

Any Pets:  Not any more. Had a Rottweiller and Welsh Springer Spaniel when the girls were small.

What are your aims for next season To stay uninjured and compete again

Tell us a Joke:

Why have elephants got big ears?
Because Noddy didn’t pay the ransom!!

 

Ilford Town centre 10k – Early 80’s

Full packet of Crisps 2000

Dave, Neil, Ian and Ian at Freshwell Ave Early 80’s

London Marathon 1983

London Marathon 2016

Neil and Dave 1983

Neil and Dianne June 1984

 

NEIL CRISP ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS

What year was that Ilford Town centre 10K race photo and who is the Woodford Green runner in the picture ?

I’m sorry I was not very good at keeping records of races etc so assume it was the early 80’s but have no idea who the other runner was!

 

 What’s happened to all your Senior Men’s PB’s ? All those listed for Road are vets times ?

Again as above I really didn’t keep any records. I didn’t race that much when I was a SM. Just did lots of training!

 

Favourite Park Run and PB ?

I have 2 Sandgate, Australia [whilst visiting our Daughter Nat] and Houston, USA [whilst attending my Nieces wedding].

Sandgate  was an early 7.00 start and a lovely out and back flat course overlooking Moreton Bay. Weather was great, the people were very welcoming, they had oranges at the end and there were a few expats who said they came from London. Oh I also happened to win it!!

Terry Hershey, Houston was also  an early start at 7.00 with an out and back course. It was in the late 20’s / early 30’s centigrade and humidity was very high. Took it easy to begin with and just hung on!!

PB is 18:21 at Harwich in 2016

 

Worst Injury ? Stress fracture in my early 20’s. Walked into the doctors, had a scan and came out with my lower leg in plaster!

 

Favourite Flavour of a packet of real Crisps ? Cheese and Onion

 

Where did you go to school and any athletic successes there ? Went to Parmiters School in Bethnal Green. Represented my “House”  at sports day and cross country. Ran for London once in an Inter Counties Cross County fixture

 

 What is your normal Day Job and how do you fit training around that ? My normal day job now [after some 36 odd years in Banking] is at a local Primary School as a Bursar. Easy to fit training around that though I do miss my Wednesday morning runs along the Thames from St Pauls to Westminster, Hyde Park etc

 

 Why did you leave Victoria Park Harriers and Havering AC to join Ilford AC ? My parents moved from Stoke Newington to Chadwell Heath when I was 15. My Brother and I joined Havering as we knew the Barrett Family from there. I joined Ilford AC when I got to know my neighbours…..Pam and Dave Jones lived almost opposite us!

 

 You say you met Di at Ilford AC. Can you tell us more about how you got together? Who did all the early ‘running’ ? When I joined Ilford I used to run in Fred’s groups up on the top track, now part of the Isaac Newton Academy. There was a good mixture of men and the top Ladies at that time. I just used to turn up and do the sessions there and at Hainault with them. I knew of Dianne but nothing more than that at the time. It wasn’t until I went to Alison Hayes wedding in early 1984 that I actually asked Dianne out. It was a works do in the City so must have impressed her!! We were engaged that September and married in January 1985. Been running together for the last 35 odd years!!

 

Did you encourage your 2 daughters to get in to the sport or was this something they got into naturally?
Not really. Just wanted them to be active in any sport. They participated in trampolining, football, gymnastics, swimming and badminton [both won Gold at the London Youth Games]. It wasn’t until they were late teenagers that they moved into running. It was great when the “full packet of crisps” represented Ilford at the Essex Road Relays as a complete family team!!

 

 You have done a great job as a club vest / kit man for a long time. Any reason why you were not wearing club colours in the 1983 London Marathon and Town Centre 10k ?
Thank you. I can’t think why I didn’t apart from the fact I used to subscribe to Runners World and had bought some kit from them and wanted to wear it…..

 

 Some of your shorts seem very ‘short’, Did you hand any of these down to Billy? Were these the norm back then or did you seek them out?
Short shorts were the order of the day then. No I didn’t hand any to Billy and still purchase them nowadays much to the dismay of my kids!!

 

 

 

Your Sunday sessions in your younger days seem pretty intense – What kind of break did you have between the 20 mile session and the 5 miles at pace?
The 20 mile session was at 9:00am with another 5m around 5:00pm. This would sometimes be with Peter Cheatle and John Fickin? From Essex beagles. On occasions I would take a days holiday on a Tuesday and go for a run with Dave Jones and Peter Cheatle to Toot Hill and beyond!!

 

You mentioned running home on Tuesdays with Dave Jones? Did you work with Dave and what do you remember about Dave?
I didn’t work with Dave but would run from Cheapside to City Road, to meet him, and then run home with him along Regents Canal via Hackney Marshes. Sometime I would be late and end up chasing him for a few miles!! Dave was a great man with a wicked sense of humour. All of my family were very lucky to have known Dave. He was like a surrogate Father and Grandfather 

 

The picture of you and Dave together. I hope Jenni doesn’t mind me saying (or you) but you look so similar in terms of look and running style. Would you agree?
That’s very kind. I still retain a slight grimace even now when running!

 

A question I always ask – Your fantasy Dinner party. 12 guests alive or dead (obviously alive for the party). You can choose 4 sportsmen, 4 music artistes and 4 others. Who are you inviting.
Mo Farah, Brendan Foster,  Geraint Thomas, Daly Thompson, ABBA, Sean Connery, Jacinda Ardern, Barack Obama, Michael Caine

 

Do you think we will ever see 3 generations of Crisp line up together for a race? It would be nice. Orla my Granddaughter shows great potential so cross fingers J

 

 What has been your training regime since March? Running was going well until Summer holidays [5 sessions a week] when I pulled my calf muscle. Back to running Sunday [6-7], Tuesday [session], Thursday [5-6] and Saturday [5-6]. Also cycling to and from work 3 days a week. Just trying to keep fit and looking forward to meeting everyone again and racing. Staying away from group sessions at the moment as limiting contact with too many people as Jenni expecting again in January

 

Do you have a trophy room at home, or somewhere where your medals are displayed? What medal / vest are you most proud of?
No.
Winning the Essex V50 Relay with Steve and Tony Hyde. Other than that any Essex medal…

 

  David Kates  

Sep 112020
 

Name:  Dave Kates

Born:  1948

Date Joined : I think it was 1970

Personal Bests: Ah P.B’s. They’re important in the moment, particularly when you are young, because they are a measure of how well you are adapting to the training process. You know that, Bob Beamon & Jonathan Edwards aside however, that P.B’s do not stand the test of time though. What matters is results against your peers in the era that you compete in.

First Club Race: Probably the annual Ilford Club Yacht Handicap Road run at Chigwell Row. For a couple of years I also ran Cross Country in the then Metropolitan League. Huge fields of 200 plus and tin baths to clean off afterwards. If you had a bad run you were treated to cold water & 5cms of mud in the bottom of your tin bath.

My first walking race was the Essex 20km Championship, I think it was 1972. I was disillusioned following a long period of injury. Roger Mills persuaded me to try Walking and I just turned up on the day with no training behind me, never walked before and not much idea of what I was doing. I did 124 minutes and everyone said I should give walking a try.

Favourite Race:  European Masters 30km Championships, Monte Gordo, Portugal 2005. Air Temp was around 34C, no shade along the seafront there. Huge field, hundreds of spectators all around the course and in my age group in the first 6 we were knocking 7 bells out of one another the whole race. Raw enough to make you feel alive.

Notable Performances:

World Masters Champs 50km Gold. Auckland New Zealand 2004 *

World Masters Champs 30km Silver. Auckland New Zealand 2004 *

*  These two races were 4 days apart. I plead temporary insanity.

European Masters Champs 30kms Bronze. Monte Gordo Portugal 2005

Centurion Badge 1995. 100 miles in 23hrs 20min 40secs.

Biggest Disappointment:  Our demons are best kept hidden. In truth, nothing is wasted. Learn from every experience. There is always something you can take. 

Typical Weeks Training at your peak .
Ah that one. The one where they say ‘ don’t try this at home ‘. What I did is not important because you are not me. Can I say this. ” If we do what we did yesterday, we will be beaten. If we do what others are doing then we can be competitive, we can be ‘ warrior ‘. If however we see and understand the science behind our event and we use it in a unique and innovative way. Then maybe, just maybe we can be Champion.

Favourite Sessions: 
The one that ends with a cup of tea and me not saying ‘ That’s it, I’m packing it in’.

More seriously you must ask yourself each time ‘ what am I looking to get from this session, where does it fit into the blueprint of what I am trying to build here ‘. Afterwards then question ‘what did I get from that ‘. Probably pain ! You have to visualise the journey ahead of you and ensure that each session you do is a legitimate payment toward that. Otherwise you are just playing around.

Favourite race distance : Well it was 30kms but as Fagin once said I’m reviewing the situation.

Favourite event – Track, Road or Cross Country : I prefer to compete on the Road but I like to watch Track & Field also.

What advice would you give our current crop of youngsters :
Enjoy it, listen to your trainer. Don’t specialise too soon. Try as many events as you can to begin with, until you find what you enjoy most and what is right for you. General base fitness, agility, flexibility and elastic energy are first to reach for. Specialisation with Technical Coaching comes later probably when you are around 14 / 15. If you decide to stay with athletics, the view from the mountain top is a long climb. To the ‘ special one ‘ reading this – you know who you are – GET HELP you can’t do it on your own. Know this – ‘ the Champion is the one with the dominant mind ‘.

Who is the most Famous Athlete you Trained with or would like to train with:  I’ve trained with Roger Mills and Arthur Thomson. I’ve also met and had the opportunity to talk with and learn from Robert Korzeniowski and Ronald Weigel.

How would you improve the sport : I’m too old & wise to answer that question.

Favourite Athlete or Sportsman:  Mohammed Ali, Usain Bolt, Jose Mourinho & Graham Taylor. The last did not just build a football team, he built with it a Town Community. From my own sport I choose Robert Korzeniowski , Jefferson Perez and Ronald Weigel because they are serial winners. In sport the ‘ serial winner ‘ is not just a Champion – they become Legend.

What other sports do you follow:  Football. I was on the Youth Coaching Staff at Fulham FC for 3 years and I also worked for a time with Watford FC on their Schools & Community Coaching programmes. I held an F.A. Coaching Badge. I also have a UKA Coaching Licence with Level 3 for Race Walking, but it needs updating.

Really I like to watch any Team Sport and amongst other sports I like boxing, cycling, tennis & rowing.

Best Country Visited : New Zealand followed by Australia. I’m also very fond of Italy.

Favourite Food & Drink : Christmas Dinner for the occasion and to be with my family. I also like a good pasta or a risotto.

 Drink – I like a good red wine and any local English Ale.

Favourite TV Shows:
The Big Bang Theory.     
Magnum

Line of Duty.                  

Hawaii Five 0

The Wire.                       

Dexter

Last Film Seen : At the Cinema –   Downton Abbey ( a treat for my wife )

Last Book Read : I have two on the go. Eat & Run – Scott Jurek also Natural Born Heroes – Christopher McDougall.  I like autobiographies and a good thriller.

Favourite Band Singer:  Needs thinking about. I’ll settle for Annie Lenox.

Last Album Bought or Downloaded : David Bowie – Greatest Hits.

Last Concert Attended:  Russell Watson.  I had Jools Holland booked but that’s been cancelled – thank you Covid 19.

Any Pets:  Two dogs, a Lurcher and an Australian Kelpie. I’ve always kept dogs. They give unconditional love, keep me grounded and help me to forget whatever may be troubling me.

What are your aims for next season : With the present situation ( Covid 19 ) in mind – just to have one. For the moment it’s just to maintain a base level of condition & fitness that’s sufficient to enable me to step things up quickly should the situation change. It does at least offer the opportunity to work on weaknesses without the pressure of competition. We have to try to turn obstacles into opportunities.

Tell us a Joke:   Q :  Why was 6 afraid of 7.

                            A :  Because 7, 8, 9. 

 

David is on the right of all the following photos

DAVE ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS :-

For most, completing a 100 miles race leaves them “slowish” for many months as they get over it.  You had an immediate post 100 “bad week”, then started winning several “1st Centurion” awards.  How did you regain your speed so quickly?

Correct about the bad week. I was on crutches for 4 days.
Appearances are also deceptive, my body was not where it should be for several months afterwards. Just how do you prepare for a 100 mile race, particularly a first ever 100. If you think about it, preparing for the distance is not a practical proposition. ‘ Today we are going to do 8 x 100 mile with 7 minutes recovery ——

Say what Coach. What’s that !!! ‘ That said there are those athletes that have a ‘ love affair ‘ with ultra events and indeed those that excel and specialise in them. If you complete enough of them then the races themselves effectively become your training and you will adapt better to the distance. The risk in doing that however is that your adaption to the 100 mile Event will then be just that and it might compromise your ability to race effectively over much shorter distances, for example 5k or 10k. Bags of endurance, but can’t run for a bus. There are obvious exceptions to this and I would describe all of them as ‘ not just your average athlete ‘. For my part being in the best of health and getting myself into the best general physical condition was essential. Be in no doubt that if you’re not, a race like that can kill you. On the Entry Form there was a Death Disclaimer. What was also crucial was to prepare my mind. I spoke with a number of athletes who had experience of 100 mile events and all warned me about the ‘ night ‘. Huge temperature drop, accelerated exhaustion due to being cold, the need for No 1 or No 2, pitch darkness – so dark you can’t work out where you are, the need for sleep, isolation, your mind playing tricks as you slip between reality and something akin to dreaming and worst of all NO COCOA. I practised many weeks before on one Friday night by leaving work in East London around 6.30pm with a rucksack full of drink and goodies, following a route through the City, Holloway Rd, Highgate Hill & Village, before picking up the A41. I thought the drunken idiots turning out of the bars in Dodge City, I mean Watford, in the early hours of the morning would be my worst encounter, but then in a state of exhaustion I came upon the start of the Chiltern Hills. In my armchair around 4.30 am ( with cocoa ) having walked less than half a ‘ 100 ‘ I was reviewing the situation rather unfavourably. I decided I would train for the 100 by not training. If I’d attempted another of those overnight adventures beforehand I would have destroyed myself. In the race itself, as night fell I found myself walking for a couple of hours with a Dutch walker. Forgive me but I cannot remember his name, but he was in his middle 60 ‘s and one of the oldest in the race. He wore the type of hat favoured by the Dutch Boers and to record the 40 laps of 2.5 miles of Battersea Park London, he carried with him a knife and tally stick. At the end of each lap he made a notch. He always knew where he was. He told me that everyone will face a crisis. When it happens, go inside yourself. You will find something. 

You coached and mentored Ilford AC star Scott Davies when he equalled the late Olympian Don Thomson’s impressive record of winning 7 consecutive National 50 Kilometres’ titles.  What do you recall of the high’s and lows from such a successful partnership?

If you look at a Painting by any of the Classic Masters, you will within it, see many different  features, different colours, different use of light and shade, different perspectives and so on. If you focus too intently on just one or two of those, do you not lose a sense of the complete work. Personally I would much rather people look back on what Scott achieved 

( because it was a lot more than those 7 National 50k titles ) in the context of a journey that led to him laying down a complete piece of work which I hope will now be seen as a triumph. It was a privilege to work with Scott and I will always be grateful that he gave me that opportunity.

It’s well known you’re a Watford FC season ticket holder.   How much have you missed not being at the matches?

Well football is a game for the people, a tribal game of heroes and villains, a game of passion and excitement, a game to allow us to escape to the terraces to give life to our raw emotions. It draws people and communities together. Those of you that have experienced that electric atmosphere generated by a tense,tight game in a packed stadium will know what I’m talking about. Did anyone see the Spurs v West Ham game. West Ham coming back from 3-0 down and Lanzini hitting that rocket equaliser with 30 secs remaining.  Even in an empty stadium you could sense the emotion, imagine that in front of 60,000 spectators. TV doesn’t quite cut it, does it.

What made you pick race walking over running ?

Once upon a time it was winter. I came inside from the cold, sat by the fire and put my slippers on. I was immediately comfortable. The race walking community is a very welcoming family.

Have you ever done any running races ? If so, which ?

I came into athletics from football, having done some running at school. In those days at Ilford the calendar was, cross – country over the winter, road runs & road relays in the spring and then track & field during the summer months. For a couple of years I did all of those but my track races were mostly limited to graded races over 800 / 1500. I was a decent runner at school but after that I continued growing, got heavier and was no longer suited to middle distance running. I switched to walking after a prolonged period of running injuries.

Some of your answers are very philosophical ? Why is that ?

I’ve been around the block. Will it help if I worry about things I can’t change, things I can’t undo or control. People are who they are and some things in life are what they are. What matters is what you see in the mirror. A couple of years ago a street beggar in Madrid told me that to be great in this World, all that is needed is a humble heart. I think about that.

Ever Done ParkRun ?

No but I think that they are an excellent idea. Grass root & mass participation sport & recreation at its best. There is little formality and anyone, whatever their fitness level, can simply turn up and give it a try. The thing with mass participation sport is that the cream always rises to the top, so Park Run may be a good fishing ground for talent too. In any event the essence of it is that people are brought together to simply enjoy themselves without performance level pressure 

Happiest moment in your race walking life ?

There isn’t one, because it’s a journey of many happy moments. I don’t want to focus on this bit or that bit. I would rather look at it as a ‘ Painting ‘ or a complete piece. It’s been extraordinary in the making. It has taken me to countries all over the World where I have met some extraordinary people, made friendships and had some fantastic experiences. You realise after a while that it’s not any particularly medal or performance that’s enriched your life. It’s the ‘ Painting ‘ when you see it as a whole.

What are your thoughts of International Race Walker Tom Bosworth and how do you feel he will perform in next Years Olympics ?

He’s a World Class athlete and his performances place him amongst the greatest of British Race Walkers. He has also been very successful in raising the profile of our sport through TV and other media and his exploits have had people here in Britain actually talking about race walking. He is an example of what commitment, dedication and many years of hard work can achieve and a great role model for our sport. Part of his legacy will be that ‘ somewhere out there ‘ are Young British kids that will be drawn into race walking because of Tom Bosworth. Does he have the credentials for a great performance in Tokyo – absolutely. I hope the stars align for him.

Do you keep in touch with any people you used to compete/train with at the club or from other clubs?

Yes. All of us at Ilford stay in contact with each other. The race walking community as a whole is also very close knit. Everyone knows everyone, so you will develop a wide circle of friends, perhaps even extending internationally.

Your 2 events at the World Masters are very impressive, both in terms of achievement and distance. With only 4 days break between the 2 can you remember how you recovered. Was it complete rest between the 2 events?

You can’t recover in 4 days. No one can, so you have to prepare on that basis. The World Masters Road Championships in Auckland, NewZealand were a little unique in that the Walks programme included events over 10k, 30k and 50k. To my knowledge the 50k Event had not been tried before in Masters Championships and it has not been included on the programme again since 2004. The World Masters presently have their longer Walking Event as 20k although the European Masters do still retain the 30k Event. In Auckland very few walkers competed in all three events and most either did a 10/30k or a 30/50k combination. My approach to the 30/50k double was to accept that it was impossible to recover in between and therefore treat the two as if they were one event that had two stages. In training I put emphasis on endurance against external resistance with many long duration sessions on a specific heart rate. Out here the Chiltern Hills are best described as ‘ brutal ‘ and perfect for that. Too much of that type of work however will compromise both your cadence and stride length if it’s done to the exclusion of everything else.  I therefore sought flatter terrain for sessions where I was seeking to improve power.  To illustrate this, if for example you are working through a fartlek session over an undulating course with many steep hills than you introduce the factor of external resistance which will break up your rhythm. Your fartlek session will take on the nature of endurance rather than intervals and you won’t be getting from it what you think you are. Another consideration was logistics. It’s pointless training hard for 6 months or more, only to have everything go ‘ pear shaped ‘ on the eve of your race because of poor logistics. I took nearly a week getting out to New Zealand, stopping off for a few days in Bangkok and we also a had a short stop in Sydney where I slept. I did not train on the way out. We arrived in Auckland I think about 4/5 days beforehand and I think 2 days prior, I did one training session of about 20 minutes with Laurie Dordoy. This  ‘ decompression ‘ approach if you will, was to overcome the effect of travelling through several time zones and to try and arrive fresh. Others went straight out in one hop with just a few hours stop over in Sydney Airport, arriving barely one or two days beforehand and even trained the same night they arrived. The night before the 30k I happened to find myself in the hotel elevator with one of my European rivals. I looked at his face and he looked like crap through jet lag. I knew he had ‘ no chance’. In the 30k I finished 2nd to Andrew Jameison of Australia who had already won the 10k. What an athlete, he was simply just different class and deservedly won the Athlete of the Championships Award. In his late 50s he was still walking something around 94minutes for 20k and in New Zealand he finished the 30k in 2hrs38m. I could not live with that and he was a distance ahead but I count it as a privilege to have been in that race with him and to have shared the podium. In the closing stages of that race I suffered sudden cramp but just about got over the line. The following day my left hamstring tightened severely and despite treatment I had doubts about the 50k. Then I heard that Andrew had had to return suddenly to Australia. The reason I’m not sure of but I felt for him because it seemed a cruel twist. Bar a mishap befalling him I could not have beaten him in that 50k. The stars it seemed might be aligning for me and I had to start that race.  I spent the time until then getting treatment and just resting. I’d discussed strategy for that 50k with Colin Young before leaving for New Zealand. He suggested that I should sit back for 25/30k and let the others push it if they want. A 50k race so soon after the 30k is a big ask. He thought that there was going to be drama, with the wheels coming off of them all in the later stages. He was right. They just fell away in front of me as I came through. I was not the quickest, but it turned out that I was the strongest. No one finished in front of me.

Favourite Watford player?

John Barnes. More recently Gerard Deulofeu. 

We have a young kid just broken into the 1st Team – Joao Pedro. Look out for him, I think he is going to be great.

Ever been disqualified in a race walk? The rules seem incredibly complex to me?

Yes. What’s it like ? Well as Mike Tyson would say. ‘ Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth ‘. More seriously I’d like to address this question from the perspective of a young, new or novice race walker who might be nervous and need reassurance about how the seemingly strict rules of race walking are applied and the role of judges in that. The judges are there to ensure fair competition and help each walker to finish the race with good technique.  They will do that if you take notice of what they are indicating to you by way of caution through the  ‘ paddle system ‘. 
Take heart if you do suffer the unfortunate experience of disqualification. You will be indicated the reason why and certainly most of our judges are approachable after the event and will readily advise what you can do to improve. You should also know that just because you get disqualified in one race, it does not mean that you are certain to suffer the same fate in the next race or the one after that. Most disqualifications are caused through fatigue issues. In any sport, not just race walking, when you are tired the first thing that goes is your technique. Most DQ’s come about because of (a ) Injury or physical impairment. You may not be completely rehabilitated from injury. ( b )  It may be early in the season and the walker may not have reached peak fitness & condition but tries to race as if they have. ( c ) the walker is placed in a level of competition that is beyond their present development or capability. They simply get dragged along to fast. I think that the last one highlights how important it is for young or novice walkers to be protected and given time to perfect their technique and develop without being hurried too early into the pressure of high level competition.

You obviously enjoy football. Did you play much when you were younger?

Yes, I played at youth or junior level but did not progress into pro football. I secured a good position with an International Bank in London ( the same Bank that Olympic Champion Jared Tallent and a number of Australian Cricketers including Dennis Lillee worked for ) so I did not try to follow a pathway into semi – pro football. I remember playing in different School sides with both Roger Cross and Bob Glozier both of whom went on to play for the West Ham Youth Team. Bob Glozier was the best I ever played with. A brilliant Defender who was Captain of England School Boys. He was seen by West Ham as the natural successor to Bobby Moore and yes he was that good. Sadly as he was about to break into the 1st Team his career was cut down and finished suddenly by a dreadful injury. If my memory serves me correctly he is mentioned by Trevor Brooking in his Autobiography. A great pity and devastating to all of us that knew him. Roger Cross I think was eventually transferred to Brentford. Back in those days most of the London Districts and the London Pro Clubs entered their Youth Teams in a Competition called the London Senior Cup. I remember playing for an East Ham Youth Team and losing 3-0 against Millwall FC. I also remember playing in the same Competition in a mid – week game against Silvertown under floodlights at The Terence McMillan Stadium, Newham. The then Chelsea Manager, Dave Sexton was in attendance with his Coaching Staff to ‘ scout ‘ the match. I scored our 2nd goal but it did not buy me a Contract. At least I had the honour of scoring in front of Dave Sexton.

Well that concludes my trip down memory lane. Hope you enjoyed the ride.

  Martin Clarke  

Sep 012020
 

Name: Martin Clarke
Born: 29/02/1952 (Oldchurch Hospital Romford).
Date Joined : 1997
Personal Bests: (most as a vet 45+, bit of a late starter)

Track

800m 2min 20? sec
1500m 4min 55sec
3000m 10min 03sec
3000m s/c ?? Forever. Spent most of the evening trying to get out the water jump
5000m 17.00 dead. (Special thanks go to the Timekeeper for rounding up)
10000m 35min 45sec

 

Road

5k 16min 55sec
5 miles 27min 56sec
10k 34min 55sec
10 miles 58min 21sec (over 50 club record)
Half Mar 77min 17sec
20 miles 2hr 5min 15sec
Marathon 2hr 52min 03sec

 

What was your pathway into running:

I was always fairly fit and had enjoyed and participated in many sports but I was also a reasonably heavy smoker so long distance running and xc for me was literally a “frightful wheeze”. I took up running when nearly 40 as a means of trying to give up the dreadful nicotine sticks figuring if I ran I couldn’t smoke, or at least any attempt to do both would be foolish. This was a theory ex Ilford man Steve Macdonald frequently challenged by lighting up during races at any opportunity even at the 19 mile water station in London one year I believe. However despite this contradictory image the running worked fine for me. Initially I joined the old London Road Runners Club which was a bit of a cop out really and didn’t really give me the opportunity to train with anybody. Luckily I was soon to meet an obsessive running maniac at work in the form of Terence John Anthony Knightley who led me to that secret door that unlocked the shining passageway to running enlightenment by signing me up to join Barking RR, also home of the revered Owen Roger Charles Phipps, a veteran runner of some local status. For a small club Barking was surprisingly full of quality runners and many an Essex Championship medal rewarded them for their endeavours. For many years a zenith of their achievement was their complete dominance of the Essex Way, sadly nowadays the crown being worn by the overpopulated Springfield Striders, then itself just a small club of agricultural artisans based in a cowshed in the middle of a field just north of Chelmsford.  Then after a few years of basking in complete and unwarranted narcissistic glory the awful realisation dawned…..we were just tiddlers in a muddy puddle….the vast ocean of Ilford AC beckoned and the 3 of us took the plunge in 1997.

First Club Race:

It was either the Club Road Championships on the old course at Chigwell Row or it might have been the Aveley 5k where I came 5th  according to one of Terry’s newspaper cuttings.  However when Terry, Owen and myself first transferred over from Barking we used to go off and race as an Ilford team anywhere and everywhere so quite hard to remember. The Ipswich Jaffa, 5,10 and 15 mile were always popular with us.

Notable Performances: 

I’ve had quite a bit of success as a vet and often been first in my category with the odd smattering of a county medal thrown in but doing well in the overall race was always the more rewarding. Although these were not outright wins I’d count coming 3rd  overall in both the Havering Half Marathon and Great Dunmow to Thaxted  Half Marathon as 2 of my best performances.

However there has also been a few outright yet unnoteworthy victories that have littered a star waning pot hunting career. Strangely most of the races were discontinued soon after I had won them…maybe it was felt they had now been somehow devalued by the last winner.

Without doubt the Limes Farm 4 miler must rank amongst the naffest of them all. I won the race in a shade under 22 minutes owing to the thankful no show of Malcolm John Muir who (and much to his later regret) had decided the race was beneath him and went training over Hainault instead. Then there was the Danbury 5k where both Muir and Knightley did both show but mercifully elected to race themselves over the longer distance of 10k leaving the ebullient Clarke to sweep away all opposition in a staggering sub 17 clocking, and in so doing passed the hapless Ben Matthews of Witham RC who for some reason thought it necessary to confess that he had in fact been sick 3 times no less.

Then again who could forget my first ever victory, the Doddinghurst 5 miles – having already breezed the vet prize in the main race I decided to forgo any scruples re embarrassment and go again over the distance in the fun run. I was a bit green behind the gills at this time and only later came to realise that a runner exhibiting such behaviour is generally considered something akin to a prize twat. As I had effectively won 2 prizes the organiser asked for a gesture on my part ……he got one.

At the Waltham Abbey 5 held in the idyllic setting of Lee Valley Park and Nature reserve I was able to celebrate the demise of Orion’s latest up and coming starlet with another dodgy victory and a bacon bap to die for. This came courtesy of a Michelin accredited (it had tyres underneath it) establishment in the form of a very small dilapidated 1930s model caravan parked adjacent to the finishing line. A piece of driftwood secured by string and a couple of clothes pegs to a broken serving hatch announced the curators’ enterprise with the annotation “Bob and Bas’s mobile food emporium”.

In case you may think I’m making some of these races up as they no longer exist history will attest to the fact that I was also first to breast the tape once in the 1500m Ilford track champs laying to waste yet another quality packed field. True the more astute connoisseur of the sport may have considered the time to be a bit on the slow side and therefore untroublesome to any selector present. I remember at Presentation night an intoxicated (we all were) Peter Clinch grinning and shouting out What was your time? My reply was the time doesn’t go on the trophy mate. In any case I think Alan Lovett wasn’t at his sharpest by this time and got the wrong trophy engraved with my name where I believe it erroneously remains on the 3000m pot until this day.

However probably the most serious accolade I ever achieved was SCVAC grand prix winner. 1998 (held over 5miles, 10k, 10 miles, half marathon, marathon). Under severe pressure from the very nimblest of all the Southern old wrinklies brigade I had to finish the Abingdon marathon in a reasonable time in order to secure the series victory. This turned out to be the scene of my famous “blanket” finish with Owen Phipps…not that we came into together as he had pressed on when I started to struggle at 20. It was because he and Joan had found me all of a quiver and a shiver under a blanket after feeling decidedly queasy but still happy enough to clock 2.57 which as it turned out was good enough to secure the spoils and a feature write up in “The Southerner” (SCVAC’s equivalent of Cosmopolitan) which after all is what any old master dreams of isn’t it?

Slough half marathon (Part of the SCVAC Grand Prix races) The SCVAC grand prix winning year (subtitled Joe Jogger complete with sponge and in oxygen debt – apologies no llford vest this time)

Favourite and least favourite Races:

I enjoyed the Friday Night 5 series of races. Based in North Essex and Suffolk these usually involved a mad dash up the A12 after work just to make the start line in time. I seem to remember Great Bentley was a very popular venue with Karaoke and the lock-in at the Plough featuring prominently on a couple of occasions so much so that one year we actually booked in for the night at a nearby camp site so we could fully appreciate the post-race festivities. I seem to recall the Ilford AC Maple/Gillam cover of Bye Bye Miss American Pie received great acclaim one year.

The Benfleet 15 can either be a running delight or a running mare depending on weather conditions. The Downs  and views of  the Thames Estuary are quite inspiring and the light catching the effluent of the oil refinery chimneys strangely beautiful on a clear day but when the weather turns inclement your progress is somewhat hampered with half the country park stuck to the bottom of your mudclaws. Just down the road is another beast, the notorious Hadleigh XC course. I think the course has changed over the years in the interests of health and safety but we used to get directed up that ridiculously steep hill leading up to the castle. I remember following Grant Reynolds up one year and having to literally pull myself up the hill by grabbing hold of any vegetation I could find to stop myself falling back down.  The setting of the race always reminded me of a surrealistic Dali painting where strewn across the landscape are mummified hands sticking through the mud from previous years still trying to hand in their finishing discs. Compare the original below and hopefully you’ll see what I mean.

Metamorphosis of Narcissus (inspired by The start of the Essex XC Relays at Hadleigh) by Salvador Dali

 

As a footnote this was also the venue of Ray Rawlinson’s mishap in the relays one year when wearing only trainers and on a particularly muddy stretch he slid off the hill at the finish gathering pace, his momentum finally being halted by a thick clump of gorse bushes.  In the pub afterwards Mel Jones excused Ray’s somewhat terse and irascible manner to the waitress thus “You’ll have to excuse my friend, he’s been a bit prickly of late”.  The ensuing laughter reached such a crescendo that even Karen Sindall briefly appeared out of the toilet to see what was going on.

Biggest Disappointment:

Feeling the worst for wear after a previous night out with Mr Muir at O’Neills Ilford and only coming 7th in the Essex Over 50 xc champs at Stubbers. Andy Catton won the race with Gary Murdock, myself and Owen Phipps getting team gold. This was of little consolation to me as I was in good shape at the time and thought I had a good chance of winning it myself. PS. Muir’s overpowering flatulence on the journey also did little to improve my chances. I resolved that next time I travel alone.

Typical Weeks Training at your peak : 

Mon      5-8 miles road

Tues     Track session/ offroad reps

Weds    8-10 miles road

Thurs    Forest fartlek or hills (summer) 8 miles Tomswood Hill Club run (winter)

Fri        4-5 miles easy recovery running or day off when needed

Sat        Race or Forest

Sun       LSD – 13-22 miles

Basically it was the same weekly pattern which was just tweaked depending on my target race. For example if marathon training I would up the mileage on both the Wednesday and  Sunday runs and generally increase the distance on efforts for the rest of the week. Would select long races to do on Sunday leading up to the Marathon (halves to 20 miles).Saturday would then be more gentle in the Forest.

PS When training for London 1998 I managed to actually record 100 miles per week 3 weeks before but it was only one week. I wouldn’t recommend it though….I probably overtrained.

Favourite Sessions:

Definitely the Tomswood Hill blast at Ilford on a Thursday night (I can hear Andy hooting in discomfort as I write), reps at Raphaels Park, Lunchtime blasts from work up around OrangeTree Hill and back in super quick time with Terry. Forest fartlek.

Favourite race distance:

Probably 10k…Doesn’t feel too eyeballs out and gives you a chance to relax into your running.

Favourite event:

Vets  relays, Road or XC. Also loved racing vets champs abroad in places such as  Brugges and Malta enjoying some wonderful times in some great company and collecting some very funny stories on the way.

Most Embarrassing Moment:

Being sent the wrong way by marshals and subsequently losing the plot is bad enough but have you ever been announced as having won a prize only to be told there’s been an admin error and then you have to leave the stage grasping thin air? That really sucks and has happened to me twice, once at the Barking and Dagenham Half and again at Harlow. The picture below shows me holding Sweet Fanny Adams as I leave the stage at Harlow where the observant will spot Marc Delea in the foreground having to turn away as laughter starts to gain the better of him.

What advice would you give our current crop of youngsters :

Well if you consider that you’re liable to look like an undernourished weasel, suffer mood swings and severe depression until you’ve done your daily run, unlikely to have any long term relationship with a partner even if your lucky enough to get one in the first place, can only spout out times, races, distances and descriptions of your latest injury as your staple topics of conversation and after all this still want to continue in the sport despite rapidly becoming a crushing bore then this would be my advice:-

Do your best and always give 100 percent but remember every athlete has their day in the sun, enjoy it while it shines but never take yourself too seriously. Avoid self congratulation, let others do it for you. Train with the herd but avoid the instinct, take the advice but always try and follow what works best for you.

Who is the most Famous Athlete you Trained with or would like to train with: 

I could dredge up a few if really pushed but surely this would only be considered as gratuitous name dropping. Rumour has it former Olympic marathon champion Constantina Dita and myself have partied together.

How would you improve the sport:

I certainly believe that our governing body doesn’t do enough to encourage athletics at grass roots…we need more coaches and enthusiasm generated in our schools and policies put in place to promote the sport nationally. It is good that an alternative body such as the ARC (Association of Running Clubs) has evolved to challenge some of these policies and make the protocols more flexible at least in the road running arena. Maybe we need to break the monopoly and encourage more such competition of ideas and challenges throughout the whole athletic spectrum.

I don’t think TV helps either. As much as I still follow football I think TV is helping to make the game poorer by the amount of air time, discussion and in-depth analysis. Do I really care how many assists Kevin Du Bruyne made last season? The amount of air time and importance dedicated to this sort of stuff with all its accompanying technical paraphernalia has the effect of turning sports like athletics into fringe sports. Moreover the coverage, especially of road and xc has become sporadic over the years to say the least. As for the track the distance events from 3000m upwards even get chopped. Inspired by some of the great distance track battles of the past involving people like Dave Bedford, Brendan Foster, and the Finns Vaatainen and  Lasse Viren we saw all of the race, not just the beginning and the end. Had the policy of chopping out the middle of the race been in place then we would certainly have missed the magnificent sight of the charismatic Kenyan John Ngugi running like Groucho Marks, falling over and the still catching up the field to win. We need to see all of the race and not cut to the field events after the 2nd lap only to finally see the latest Ethiopian or Kenyan winner striding down the finishing straight. Field events can be recorded and played back after the race has finished.

A life ban for all cheats.

 
Favourite Athlete or Sportsman:

I like the showmen who are that good they are able to win with style and panache. Jimmy Connors, Bjorn Borg and Roger Federer in Tennis…Athletics Dave Bedford ,Steve Ovett, Paula Radcliffe……Boxing Ali……Football….Pele, George Best….Snooker Alex Higgins, Ronnie O’Sullivan. 

But my favourite of all time is Jimmy Greaves (Spurs and England) who I used to go and watch on many occasions and turned scoring goals into an art form.

What other sports do you follow:

I love most sports except WWF crap. Used to play Rugby, cricket and hockey at school and then continued to play for the Old Boys and various work teams at Rugby. Also Sunday football when time allowed. Squash for Redbridge SC. Also I like triathlon, cycling, boxing, darts and snooker.

I support Spurs but so far not enjoying the Mourinho tenure. Its not only winning but how you win that matters. Guess I’m old-fashioned but I hanker after the Glory days of the 60s.

 

Greatest Rivals: 

I always used to enjoy a tussle with a fellow vet for the coveted age category pot. Stan Coleman from Havering AC and his brother Andy from Woodford Green were of course mustard together, Owen Phipps was class and difficult to beat but there were others such as Steve Fulker of Billericay, Steve Williams of Pitsea, Johnny (the Man) Wallace and Billy (hairpiece) Wooton both of Woodford Green.

Best Country Visited :

Mauritius for a tropical paradise but Blighty has something of everything and always good to return home to.

Favourite Food & Drink :

Steak and Chips, Red grape juice with strong alcohol content( a good Malbec, Rioja, or Merlot) and not forgetting the good ol’ boy  from Tennesseee Jack D.

Favourite TV Shows: 

I dislike much of TV these days but will watch stuff like Have I got News for You, Would I lie to You,  Eggheads, The Chase, Question of Sport.

Most of my TV viewing is centred on Sports programs.

Last Films Seen :

1917,  Jean De Florette (Gerard Depardieu), also recently rewatched  2 old classics – One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest and To Kill a Mocking Bird.

Last Books Read:

The Shack (William P. Young), Adolf Hitler – My part in his downful (a reread) – Spike Milligan,

Favourite Band Singer:

Very wide musical tastes – anything ranging from Glenn Miller to Stormzy ….as long as it is a “tune”. Have a large vinyl collection of many of the old standards from wayback ….. Stones , Bowie, Beatles, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Eagles, Elvis, Led Zeppelin, Boston, Tom Petty, Cat Stevens

Been getting into some Country and Western lately as well – yeeee-hah!

Last Album Bought or Downloaded :

Ray La Montagne : Part of the Light

Last Concert Attended:

I haven’t been to one for years but back in the day regularly got tickets for The Albert Hall seeing bands such a Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Zappa and The Mothers of Invention.

Any Pets: 

Nope not any more but love animals especially cats and dogs…just don’t enjoy mess and destruction

What are your aims for next season:
Actually run in some of the Elvis races rather than only being able to watch or officiate.

Tell us a Joke:

I went to a meeting for premature ejaculators. I left early.

What job do you hold

I’ve had many jobs …including insurance, banking, and in the holiday industry but in the end settled for a career in IT. I was a freelance programmer/analyst retiring early around 2005/6. I can remember driving over Hainault one morning for my early run before work and thinking after 30 years of toil I’ve had enough of this. I did my run, went straight back home and that was it….Game Over.

Do you belong to any other Clubs:

I moved to the Harwich area in 2011 and joined Harwich Runners 2nd claim whilst maintaining Ilford AC as my first claim club. During my time I have also 2nd claimed at Havering 90, Orion and Barking (mainly to compete in Sunday xc leagues) whilst taking utmost care never to compete against my first claim club. I see this as an extension of club networking rather than raising any issues of disloyalty.

What roles have you held since joining Ilford AC:

I have served the club on Committee both as General Secretary and Press and Media officer, a position I held for many years before handing over to Billy. I have also been Road and XC officer and captain of the vets T&F team before handing over to Henry.

Distance has forced me to reduce some of my involvement but I still run the website and get involved when and where I’m able.

I was privileged to be the coach of the Thursday night and Saturday morning running group at Hainault for a number of years.

I was also honoured to be proposed and accepted as a life member of Ilford AC a few years ago.

What do you consider your best achievements at Ilford AC

I’m actually more proud of my non running achievements at the Club. I’m particularly happy to have been involved with what I hope are seen as very worthwhile projects, initiatives  and causes which include the formation of the Elvis Series, the Harriers, Valentines Park events (parkrun and the Elvis 5k) and the purchase of the land at Chigwell Row.

I have also greatly enjoyed taking an active role in hosting races whether that be as Race Director, announcer or just compiling results, whether this be for the Club or further afield in the County. I’m constantly updating and enhancing our race Software which is used for the Newman Hilly, Club 10 and Elvis Series.

Flying the Flag in Malta with Owen and Terry. I seem to have won something. More bling at Dunmow 5. Everyone’s a winner.
Mass Start of the Southend Half (I think) with Nick Berrill and Terry. And now in splendid isolation finishing The Hilly 5

 

Martin answers your follow up questions

  Jill Plater  

Aug 282020
 

Name:  JILL PLATER

Born:    26.05.1939

Date Joined   April 1952

Personal Bests: 

100m               13.5

200m               26.1

400m               59.5

800m               2m.23.1

1500m             5.11.0

10K                  42.02

5miles             31.20

10mile             67.27

½ marathon     89.00

Marathon        3h.15m.33s

1500 to marathon times mostly when over 45

 

First Club Race:

May 1952 – Inter club meeting at Tooting Bec – 2nd junior 150yds, 1st junior 4 x 110 relay

 

Favourite Race: 

Any 400m

Notable Performances:

Represented Essex Schools in the sprints at the All-England Schools’ Champs 1953 and 1954

Medal winner at National track junior champs in both 60y and 100y in 1953 and 1954

Represented Essex in the Inter-County Champs for the 400 in 1960’s

Numerous medal wins in the Southern and National  Vets Champs – track and cross-country

First marathon attempt days before 45th birthday to finish in 3h15m33s

Broke the British over 50 800m record in the British Champs in Glasgow

 

Biggest Disappointment:  Trained to compete in the over 60 400 and 800 World Vets champs when being held in Scotland  but suffered a pulled tendon a matter of weeks before the event. Otherwise no major disappointment but as the years go by realise I could have done better if I’d trained harder but didn’t realise this until I was in my mid 40’s.  All my years of training with Ilford AC were fun and I wouldn’t change a thing.

 

Typical Weeks Training at your peak.

After 68 years with the club I’m not sure I can remember if and when my peak was or even if I have yet peaked!

Training during my years as a sprinting junior was mostly repetition 100’s and 200’s and starting practice – we trained 3 times a week at the track in the summer and only on Sundays in the winter (no floodlights).

As a senior:

3 track sessions per week, one road run, one country run

Track sessions were usually sets of 800’s, 600’s, 400’s, 300’s, 200’s and sometimes a mixture of these distances.

 

As veteran:  marathon training :

Mon: 7 miles road

Tues: track session

Wed: 5 miles road

Thurs: track session

Fri: rest

Saturday: long run – from 10 miles building up to 20 miles

Sunday: Easy road or country run

Favourite Sessions:

Repetition 300’s on the track

 

Favourite race distance

400m

 

Favourite event – Track, Road or Cross Country

Track first, Road second, definitely not cross country

 

What advice would you give our current crop of youngsters

Enjoy your athletics – the training and the social aspect

 

How would you improve the sport 

Life ban for drug abuse and more financial support for grass root athletics particularly to train aspiring coaches and field and track officials.

 

Favourite Athlete or Sportsman:

Seb Coe and Steve Ovett

 

What other sports do you follow:

Tennis, snooker, not football although I was a West Ham Supporter when their weekly wage was £12 – do follow Liverpool as grandson is an ardent fan and did the Anfield tour with him last year for his birthday present

 

Best Country Visited 

The American canyons

 

Favourite Food & Drink :

Any fish and a decent white wine

 

Favourite TV Shows:

Not a huge TV follower but enjoy Question of Sport, University Challenge, anything with Monty Don, British crime dramas, country programmes

 

Last Film Seen :

At the cinema with said grandson to see the latest Star Wars film

 

Last Book Read 

An Officer and a Spy by Robert Harris – an amazing storyteller

 

Favourite band/singer:

Mainly from the 60’s – Beatles, etc.

 

Any Pets:  No

 

What are your aims for next season 

At the age of 81 it’s mostly to continue to be able to put one foot in front of the other, although I still do a couple of runs a week, albeit slowly

Tell us a Joke:

Why was the Olympian not able to listen to music?

Because he broke the record

First ever tracksuit!

Ilford team winners of the Lilian Board trophy 4 x 400m Pat Bailey (Nixon), Jill Pettit, Jill Plater, Jan Blackwell

 

100 x 1 mile at Cricklefields (a very young Kim Webb can be spotted)

1984 London Marathon

Granddaughter Maddie (then aged 14) first female in Brentwood Fun Run a week before lock down

with Paul Grange and family August 2020

training with Val Surety (Cutting) in the early 1950’s

Winning the 400m during Ilford’s Swedish tour (wearing the all-in-ones that we bought in Sweden and were not allowed to race in and banned by an Essex official!

Being narrowly beaten by Pam Wyatt (Ilford) in the 100

JILL ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS:-

JILL PLATER

 

Why did you move from sprinting to the Marathon ?

I didn’t do much short sprinting as a senior as I had moved up to 400metres. Distance training and racing were new challenges but I continued to train and race on the track at the same time.

 

Favourite Park Run and time ?

Yet to do one, so this could be my next challenge!

 

What’s the reason the onesie outfit was banned by an Essex Official ?

Although they didn’t reveal any more of the body than vest and shorts, unlike today’s lycra affairs, one Essex official didn’t like their figure hugging shape and thought they were too seductive. I have to add that this Essex official was a member of Essex Ladies and not at all keen on Ilford ladies.


Worst Injury ?

Played hockey for the school and sustained a nasty knee injury caused by a fast, hard hockey ball – had a swollen knee for days and it has continued to cause me problems since then, although so far have avoided a knee replacement.

 

What do you consider your greatest running Achievement ?

As a track athlete I think I was most pleased with my first effort at a marathon with a 3hrs15m time which, in those days, was timed from when the gun went and not, as today, when you crossed the start line.  


What was the first Single and Album you bought ?

A 78 Elvis Presley when a schoolgirl – really can’t remember the first album but don’t think that, as a youngster, I could ever afford one.

 

Favourite place for a long run ?

Always enjoyed the Bournebridge 7 from Chigwell Row although don’t know why as it is a challenging run.

 

What in your opinion is the greatest British male and female sprinter of all time ?

Dorothy Hyman has been our most successful sprinter winning the silver medal in the 100 and bronze in the 200 at the 1960 Olympics. Dorothy also took the 100 gold and 200 silver at the 1962 European Champs and gained many other international medals.

As a youngster the male sprinter I admired was Emmanuel McDonald Bailey. He made the Olympic 100 final in the 1948 and 1952 Olympics, taking the bronze medal in Helsinki in 1952. In 1951 he equalled the 100 world record (10.25) set by Jesse Owens in 1936 and held it until 1956. My one and only pair of starting blocks had the trade name ‘McDonald Bailey’ written along the side. McDonald Bailey died in 2013 at the age of 93.


What is your biggest disappointment in Running ?

Always enjoyed my running and although I probably didn’t run as well as I should have on many occasions I don’t count them as big disappointments


How has the Club changed over the years ?

The Club used to be very much a track and field club with large numbers of male and female athletes training throughout the week at Cricklefields. There were always plenty of youngsters joining and often fierce competition to make the sprint relay teams. The junior sprint girls were assigned to the far side of the track and not allowed to get in the way of the older athletes. Ilford had many fantastic throwers trained by excellent coaches. There used to be numerous track meetings – trophy meetings, handicap meetings – and we would meet at Ilford Station and all travel on the train together to South London, Kent, etc. Great camaraderie and great fun. Something that Ilford is good at and it continues today. I’m not involved with the Club these days but obviously there’s a lot more emphasis on road and country running  


Observing your training and the recent training you girls would have done, how would you say training has changed over the years?

As junior girls we could not race further than 150 yards therefore we concentrated on speed work. Although today we still have sprinters and hurdlers so many young girls and boys now train for road and cross-country races and the middle distances on the track from the age of 11. It’s the way of the world but so often these youngsters give up by the time they are 17 or 18. 

 

Did you meet your husband at the club, and can you tell us about his time as a runner?

Yes, Dennis joined Ilford a year or two before me. He was an excellent distance runner and held the Club Marathon record (2h20m29s) from 1964 until Andy beat it by 35 seconds in 1985. Dennis ran for Great Britain in the Kosice marathon in 1964 where he finished 2nd. Dennis is 8th on Ilford’s rankings for 10 miles (49m3s), 6th over half marathon (1h7m), 4th over 20 miles (1h44m58s), and 2nd in the marathon. He still ran until his early 60’s when he had two hip replacements.

You mention that most of your PB’s at distances of 1500m and upwards were done as a vet. Was this in effect a ‘second running life’ and the track running was left behind at this point?

No I still did track training and raced mostly over 400m as a vet but increased my weekly training sessions to include some road running to improve my stamina. 

Some very impressive times in the longer distances – do you ever wonder if these would have been even better if you had done them earlier?

Possibly, although I think I had more determination and discipline to train when I was older.

As watches were pretty basic then, was your training runs done purely on ‘time’ or did you try and best guess a distance when you ran?

Training runs were over a known mileage. I didn’t own a stop watch until in my 40’s and then it was a bog standard one but it did make me work harder on training runs.

When you broke the over 50 British 800m record, was this a target at the time that you had been aiming at or a pleasant surprise?

The 400m, which I also won that weekend, was my main event so the 800m record came as a surprise.

Do you still keep in touch with anyone from your time running at the club?

Yes, numerous. At least 8 Ilford old ladies came to my 80th! Also still keep in touch with an even older group of far flung Ilford athletes and until a few years ago used to meet up regularly in the Cotswolds for a walking weekend. Unfortunately their numbers are declining now.

Do you think your granddaughter Maddie will become a keen runner?

Maddie is a very keen runner, trains hard and enjoys the training and the camaraderie – but who knows how long it will last.   

Having seen pictures of the old track at Cricklefield, do you think you would have been any better had you trained on a modern day track?

I’m sure the modern track surfaces would have produced faster times than on the old cinder ones.

 

Similarly do you think modern watches and shoes would have helped you, or do you think nothing beats hard work and natural talent?

Hard work and natural talent win every time

 

Who were the big characters around the club during your heyday? Any stories that may embarrass them?

There were so many big characters in those days, particularly people like Alan Perkins and Phyllis. Phyllis along with Muriel Critchley and Joan Dryden broke the 3 x 800 world record in 1952. Phyllis continued for many years to compete at a national level on the track and country.

I don’t think this will embarrass anyone, but while on the Ilford AC Swedish tour Don Owers had formed a relationship with Pat Stanley and hoping to impress her, took her out for dinner in Halsingborg one evening. Everything was fine until he came to pay and found he did not have enough money and neither did Pat. It took some persuading but eventually the restaurant allowed him to leave Pat there as a deposit while he raced back to our quarters to borrow some money. It didn’t put Pat off as they married a couple of years later.

 

Who was your coach and who was your favourite other athlete on training nights?

The one and only Fred Plumm was the ladies’ coach – he was an avid reader and was particularly interested in how Russian sprinters were trained. He was innovative in his relay coaching and Ilford ladies were probably the first club to use the relay change over method of standing alternately on the inside and outside edge of the lane to avoid having to change the baton to the other hand and therefore improve times. Enjoyed training with Val Surety (Cutting) as a junior and Alan Lovett, with his chat, was marvellous at keeping you entertained on the long road runs.   

 

If you could go back and watch any singer or band in their heyday with a backstage pass for after who would it be?

None – not my thing!

 






 

 

 

 

 

 

  Nicola Hopkinson  

Aug 232020
 

Name:  Nicola Hopkinson

Born:  September 1962

Date Joined : June 2002, Bree introduced me to the club.

 

Personal Bests: 

Marathon       3:26:31  V40
20 miles         2:36:00  V40
Half                1:37:42   V40
10 M              72:15 V40
10K                43:01 V40
5M                 35:04 V40
5K                 21:15 V40

Favourite Race: 

The races with a sense of occasion so my journey to collect the six major marathons with all the holidays that went with them, and on the Marathon du Medoc I got to drink wine all the way round 😉  A few select pictures, see if you can recognise the marathons – don’t look at the bibs. I also have a habit of falling over a couple of times a year, one of which was at the Paris Marathon with 8K to go, due to the adrenalin or shock, it was one of the fastest last five miles of all my marathons to get the finish line before I seized up – not a recommended race method though ……

 

 

My First Marathon:

For my first marathon I trained myself not being a member of Ilford yet, I remember following a Runners World Schedule and I had decided to aim for under 3:45 for some unknown reason. I followed it to the letter as I was convinced if I missed a session I wouldn’t make it round. Shame I didn’t read up on appropriate clothing as you can see from the pictures below, the first marathon followed by the second one six months later.

I got under 3:45 and it was the last unchipped London, so it was probably quicker. Note to runners pumping your arms faster makes no difference in the last 200m of a marathon.

 

My Notable Performance:

Working my way up to a 3:26 marathon and becoming a Six Star Finisher in the Abbot World Major Marathon series with times all under 4 hours – once I get my act together and get my second Boston time recorded on my certificate.  My New York time as a V55 in 2017 was almost a minute faster than when I ran it in 2001 giving me 18th in my age group, so age does help sometimes.

 

On the topic of series, Carlie, Steve Parker and Alan helped me with my journey to get the London Classics Medal.

I have some Essex medals, the most notable was the V35 silver on the Roding Half Marathon and V55 seems to be the age category for me for the Essex League Cross Country Series with one first and two third places.

 Typical Weeks Training at your peak:

Unfortunately, my Garmin history doesn’t go back that far and I think for my first marathon’s it was a Polar watch instead.  I do remember writing it down in a blue book and I am resisting the temptation to tear my home apart looking for it amongst all the boxes. The most intense training was for marathons and it followed the format below with a few 18, 20 and 22 mile runs thrown in on the Sunday.

Monday relaxed run,
Tuesday track session,
Wednesday lunchtime road run,
Thursday road or hills,
Friday rest,
Saturday race during XC season or run,
Sunday race or long run on the roads.

Favourite Sessions:  

I like training with other people so the track and Hainault forest but I am just as happy to put on a good audio book or podcast and get out there on my own. 

Favourite race distance

Now I wonder what that is …………….

Favourite event – Track, Road or Cross Country

Cross Country for the tea and cake, Road for the tea and cake, Track not so much – although I do enjoy being a field official, give me that score sheet and hooter and I’m happy providing the weather is good.

What advice would you give our current crop of youngsters

I think you have to be prepared to put the work in during training and use it wisely when racing but above all enjoy the friendship and the days out.

Who is the most Famous Athlete you Trained with or would like to train with:  

 I haven’t trained with anyone famous but have some pictures with some, oh and I’ve been on two Mike Gratton 209 Event Holidays and the Davos one did involve some walking with him, does that count?

What other sports do you follow: 

To be honest I don’t really follow other sports, I like to do rather than watch. I like to ski and have now done two triathlons. As you can see from the picture below I am very keen to get there early with my bike.

If you keep your Garmin on when you ski, the result looks just like a piste map.

Best Country Visited

 I am very lucky that I have been able to travel to all sorts of places and can never pick just one, but three highlights are a Norwegian Icebreaker in Antarctica & South Georgia (I love penguins), climbing Kilimanjaro with Sally and a sailing ship in the Arctic. There were dips in the ocean with the penguins and polar bears, a visit to Shackleton’s Grave and a climb up to the crow’s nest of our tall ship.

 

Favourite Food & Drink : My guilty pleasure is mature cheddar cheese and pickle (or strawberry jam) sandwiches. I haven’t a favourite drink but I can’t drink gin, we had a bad experience together when I was young.

 

Favourite TV Shows:  Bones, Big Bang Theory & NCIS (early seasons) and any nature programs.

 

Last Film Seen : THE RISE OF SKYWALKER – Star Wars Film

 

Last Theatre – Cyrano De Bergerac with James MaCavoy

 

Last Book Read – Now You See Me by S.J. Bolton

 

Favourite Band Singer:  

Anything to do with Nick Cave, Jack White and Gruff Rhys, The Clash & David Bowie. I go through phases with other bands/singers but these are the ones that are a permanent fixture.

 

Last Album Bought or Downloaded – Punky Reggae Selecta – 19 punk club classics

Last Concert Attended:  Eels in Barcelona

Any Pets:  I don’t have any pets but I love dogs and live vicariously through other peoples.

 

What are your aims for next season

I am not able to train for most of this year for reasons not related to running, so my aim will be to choose a challenge for next year or 2022 to prove I still can, either a triathlon or marathon. Watch out I am after companions.

 

You’re 18 again and you can be the best in the world at anything. What would it be? 

I want to be David Attenborough.

Tell us a Joke:  

Man goes to the Doctor’s – ‘Doctor I think I’m going deaf’

Doctor – ‘Can you describe the symptoms?’

Man – ‘Yes, Homer is fat and Marge has blue hair’